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The Slick-Waldron Debate: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (part 5)

February 23, 2016 Leave a comment

By Sam Waldron

One or two more matters should come up for discussion before I finish my post-game analysis of the Slick-Waldron debate over the gifts of prophecy, tongues, and healing. Here, I think, we pass from the good things I learned and the ugly of my confusion over the debate question to the bad.

I think Matt’s use of 1 Corinthians 1:7 was bad. 1 Corinthians 1:7 reads: “so that you are not lacking in any gift, awaiting eagerly the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ.” In this statement Paul congratulates the Corinthian church for the fact that they do not lack in any gift as they await the Second Coming. Matt pressed the text as a proof that all the spiritual gifts given to the Corinthians are normative for all churches till the Second Coming.

Well, quite evidently the text teaches no such thing. I actually asked….

 

 

 

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The Slick-Waldron Debate: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (part 4)

February 16, 2016 Leave a comment

By Sam Waldron

Another topic which I want to follow up on from my debate with Matt Slick has to do with my first assertion that the apostles of Christ are the first and greatest of the gifts Christ gave to His church. Matt’s response to this was to show that the blood of Christ and the Holy Spirit were the greatest charismatic gifts of Christ to the church. Gotcha!

Well, of course, the blood of Christ and the Holy Spirit are greater gifts than Apostles. But again we see here why Matt was so concerned to have that word charismatic in the title. Anything called a charisma in the New Testament thus becomes a charismatic gift.

It is true that in Romans 5:15, 16, and 6:23 salvation and eternal life are described as charismas. (I actually don’t think charisma is used of the blood of Christ or the Holy Spirit, but I will let that go.) It is also true that I would concede that these things are greater than the gift of Apostles of Christ. With qualification I would grant this.

 

 

 

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The Slick-Waldron Debate: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (part 3)

By Sam Waldron

In my last blog post I promised to share the word studies that have confirmed for me that Matt Slick’s distinction between charisma gifts and doma gifts was overdrawn. Remember that his assertion was that Apostles of Christ were a doma gift and not a charismatic gift. Hence, he could claim that all the charismatic gifts continue in the church. As to the Claim that Charisma and Doma are Distinct and that Charisma is Never Used of Apostles, let me share the actual state of the biblical evidence.

First, Slick’s assertion assumes that a careful distinction between these two words is maintained in this matter in the New Testament. Such a distinction is not apparent.

Actually, Doma is used only four times in the New Testament. Matthew 7:11 and Luke 11:13 use it of parents giving gifts to their children. Philippians 4:17 uses it of a church’s financial gift to Paul. It is used only once of spiritual gifts. That occurrence is Ephesians 4:8….

 

 

 

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The Slick-Waldron Debate: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (part 2)

By Sam Waldron

I said in my first blog post that debates for me are about truth—not about winning. I do, of course, hope the truth will win. I also hope to do a good job for the sake of the truth and the defense of the truth. One of the good things, then, about this debate is that I learned something more about how to defend the truth and how to answer arguments contrary to it. Let me tell you about that.

 

 

 

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The Slick-Waldron Debate: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (part 1)

By Sam Waldron

I have not previously blogged about debates I have been asked to participate in. But since this was a social media event of sorts, and some things worthy of comment happened, I have decided to write some blog posts about my debate with Matt Slick.

Matt Slick and I had an opportunity to talk before our recent debate. He seems to be an amiable guy and genuine Christian. He says he is “Reformed” and even Amillennial like myself. He attends (I really am not sure how, given these convictions, but I guess that is his business.) a Calvary Chapel in Boise, Idaho. He is the man behind CARM.ORG, something which a number of my younger Reformed brothers seem to know. My brief perusal of the site seemed to indicate that it had a wise and moderate tone about most things. It does advocate for the continuation of the charismatic gifts, but not the continuation of Apostles of Christ. I would characterize his view as Third Wave. Matt also made clear that he wanted to distance himself from more extreme Charismatics and their ungodly antics.

 

 

 

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Does the Bible Teach That the Charismatic Gifts Are For Today?

January 26, 2016 5 comments

 

Above is a debate between Dr. Sam Waldron, Dean and Resident Professor of Systematic Theology at Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary, and Matt Slick, President and Founder of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry. They debate the question, “Does the Bible teach that the charismatic gifts are for today?”

No matter which side of the issue you may be on, I highly recommend watching this debate, which is very instructive and helpful in seeking to understand the important issues involved. I think it may be the best debate I have seen on the issue, especially since it is between two men who share a commitment to Reformed theology.

 

 

Source [Reformed Baptist Blog]