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Matthew Vines’ Interpretations Debunked by Christians with Same-Sex Attractions

October 8, 2012 4 comments

To follow up on our post concerning Matthew Vines’ twisting of scripture, to suit his gay lifestyle, I want to point to a third and final article put out by Christianpost.com. In this article Christianpost interviewed eight different individuals who have struggled with same sex attractions, yet who have abstained from participating in gay relationships, once they came to know Christ.

I want to focus mainly on the first two interviews and then you can follow the links and read the entire article for yourself.

The first man interviewed was Christopher Yuan. He admits to having been a homosexual and contracting the HIV virus. While sitting in prison for drug dealing Yuan was confronted with the option of reading a book, wherein a man argues that one can be gay and Christian. Yuan threw the book in the trash and instead chose to follow Christ and the Bible.

Yuan states that it wasn’t the six passages that Vines’ misinterpreted that made him abstain from homosexual relationships, but rather the fact that once we come to Christ our life is to be identified with Christ. God calls us to holiness and we are to be holy for he is holy. Yuan decided to go on to Bible College and study for degrees in theology. He is now an adjunct instructor of the Bible at Moody Bible Institute.

Before Yuan closes his interview he takes Vines’ to task concerning several of his interpretations of the six main scriptures that Vines’ reinterprets in order to justify his homosexual lifestyle. Yuan also shows where singleness is not a curse and that one can live a fruitful life, in Christ, even though they are single.

If you would like more info on Christopher Yuan and his ministry, then click right here.

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The second man that Christianpost interviewed is Tom Brock. Brock has struggled with same-sex attractions most of his life. During his 22 years as a Pastor, within the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Brock spoke at church conventions for the Biblical standard of celibacy for those with same-sex attractions. In 2009, however, the ELCA began ordaining practicing homosexuals. Brock left his denomination, but still affirms in his television broadcast, that same-sex attraction is a sin and though he struggles with it, that does not give him license to practice homosexual behaviour. Brock went on to testify before the hearing at the convention of the Presbyterian Church (USA) when they were debating on whether or not to change the definition of marriage to include homosexual couples.

Brock stated that the Bible is clear on the six scriptures that Vines’ is trying to reinterpret. Brock declared that the Bible calls homosexuality a sin and he is torn apart to see Bishops endorse something that he knows is evil.

Brock was interviewed on a Minneapolis Radio station and was asked why he just doesn’t go with the orientation of who he is? Brock responded by stating that he is glad that he doesn’t or he would be dead. He said that many men his age who have went into homosexual lifestyles are now dead.

Lastly, Brock concludes throughout this interview that homosexuality is a sin. It is a sinful lifestyle, that should be abstained from because  Christ has called us to take up our cross, deny ourselves, and follow him.

If you would like to follow Tom Brock you can watch his television program right here.

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In conclusion I want to say that since the fall of Adam, men have tried to lower the moral standards of the Bible, in order to continue their perverse lifestyles. God is a holy God. This is proof that the Bible is true. All other religions have a god created after man’s on nature. In other words we always create a god that will allow us to do what we please and still go to heaven or a place of eternal bliss. Yet no one wishes for the God of the Bible. Man could not have made him up. He is holy, righteous, and separate from sinners. He will judge us all at the end of our lives. We need to turn to him and ask his forgiveness.

To read more of the article at Christianpost one can click right here.

Matthew Vines’ Interpretations Refuted

October 1, 2012 2 comments

About a week ago Christianpost.com interviewed a young man, whose name is Matthew Vines. Matthew Vines has become quite popular on Youtube for an hour long video in which he tries to reinterpret six scriptures; claiming that homosexuality is never spoken against in the Bible. This he does not do with any success, seeing that he twists scripture to his and homosexuals destruction.

One can find Matthew Vines interview with Christianpost right here. In this interview Vines appeals to the emotions of his listeners, instead of rightly interpreting scripture. This has become a norm in society and especially within the Church. I have often encountered arguments from those who claim to be theologians or ministers and who are suppose to be speaking from the word of God on a subject, yet who instead speak from their feelings on a particular subject. For instance, just the other week one of my friends went to a Catholic funeral and blogged about his experience. In his blog he tries to make Catholicism orthodox because he felt that he was around Christian bretheren at the funeral. Since these individuals acted so pleasant and nice, (in his eyes), then certainly Protestants have misappropriated certain unorthodox views to Catholics. What my friend should have done, before concluding that someone within Catholicism was orthodox, is ask what they believe about salvation and how one is justified before God. My friend then would have found that Rome has not changed its views on justification and that Rome still teaches that one is justified based upon Christ merit and ours. Grace plus works. This view is still unorthodox and still condemned by Paul the apostle 500 years after the Reformation. Scripture has not changed.

Matthew Vines has been answered by some top theologians within the Christian community. They were interviewed by Christianpost and the interview can be found right here. In their assessments of Matthew Vines’ interpretations of six scriptures, these theologians have concluded that Matthew Vines has twisted scripture because of his bias towards the homosexual lifestyle. This is one of the most common errors of misinterpreting scripture. Since every one of us approach scripture with a bias, we sometimes read that bias into scripture.

To show that I have rightly judged Vines’ approach to the scriptures I will quote from one of the theologians who responded to him:

But for McDonough, Vines’ main appeal is emotional, “with a thin dusting of logic on top.”

Theologians, Ministers, Christian bloggers, and all who represent Christ have a mandate by God too speak the truth in love. We need to stand on the word of God, in this trying time. We have a duty, to Christ and the word of God, to proclaim truth that is based upon God’s views and not ours.

As I close this short post I want to state that Matthew Vines has misinterpreted scripture and is leading people astray. The Bible clearly states that there will come individuals who will privily bring in damnable heresies, bringing swift destruction upon themselves 2 Peter 2:1. Of course today we do not see most false teachings and heresies coming in so privately, but openly and the Church is embracing them rapidly.

James White has also refuted Matthew Vines’ misinterpretations and you can find his audio critiquing homosexual behavior right here. Or right here.